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December 4, 2008

Has Hip-Hop been hijacked by the free masons? A couple big time conspiracy theorists make a compelling argument.

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  1. December 4, 2008 1:22 am


  2. December 4, 2008 6:47 am

    people will make a conspiracy theory out of anything

  3. December 4, 2008 1:52 pm

    Alan watt is the truth listen to the whole conversation and then dismiss it because of one assumption of one little detail.

    hiphop fool

  4. December 4, 2008 1:53 pm

    And if you dont understand “culture creation” – read a book

    You think that gangster rappers are promoted so heavily by accident?

  5. December 4, 2008 2:20 pm

    I think it’s true. There is a lot that we don’t know.

    Jesse, they were just showing you the similarities in the ring. Not that it was the ring.

  6. kevin satchell permalink
    December 4, 2008 2:24 pm

    This straight bull I am a Princehall Mason this guy is crazy ther is no conspiracy too take over the music business . Anything you need too know about masonary you kind find on the internet or a libaray the picture the showed with Jayz and Nas was not masonic hand shake or the one with him and Kanye . Some people try too find conpiracy in everything anyone who is a mason knows we cannot decide what too have too eat at the lodge more less then try too take over the world.

    • March 4, 2010 4:11 am

      dumbass ignorant peoople like yourself doesnt even know what is going on in his own society………..get out of your damn shell the evidence is everywhere. if not true then why is your faggot society so secret, why no freakin windows,

    • Teacher permalink
      March 5, 2010 2:14 pm

      kevin satchell wrote:
      ” we cannot decide what too have too eat at the lodge more less then try too take over the world.”

      That exact phrase has been used by Masonic apologists in televised interviews.
      Except their script probably spelled it correctly.

      The vast majority of Masons are charitable honorable citizens. But I agree- the rank-in-file ARE probably distracted by menu arguments and seating arrangements while those in power (above 32nd degree) pull the strings. A perfect model of the country, don’t you think?

    • Rashad permalink
      April 24, 2010 1:48 am

      you can say what you want brother but the truth is being revealed I just pray that everyone wake up in the time before its too late..and for all you masons the truth hurts you worship lucifer not God in heaven…You think the devil is God but you are sadly mistakin…they teach you to follow the light which is the light bearer (the devil) that’s what the big secret is…study people find out for your self..God is showing his people the truth so you won’t get caught off guard the mason run everything tv,music, food industry etc….

      • May 18, 2010 9:25 am

        @Rashad … Worship Lucifer? You crazy fool, please take your medication before you hurt somebody!!

  7. December 4, 2008 2:41 pm

    um Jay said “now Im so ENLIGHTENED” not illuminated….try again guys

  8. December 4, 2008 2:57 pm

    living in south america because his ass is hiding. he is worse than that dude that played jay z’s lucifer from the grey album by danger mouse and said it had a hidden message.

  9. a master mason permalink
    December 4, 2008 3:23 pm

    as a master mason, i can watch this video and literally laugh as this guy attempts to connect masonry with these artists

    now, while some of the artists may actually be masons (i have no idea if they are or arent), that these “symbols” they are using (handsigns, backgrounds in videos) are not masonic

    its hysterical that someone who isnt a mason can tell others so much about the organization

  10. preston permalink
    December 4, 2008 3:30 pm

    man quit it i’m a 32nd degree mason this guy is so full of shit come on he don’t know anything about the biggest fratt in the world jay is not a mason nor is kanye dumb dumb

  11. Daunte permalink
    December 4, 2008 3:39 pm

    I am a Black 32nd Degree Freemason, this has nothing to do with US…….as Jessie Woodfork mention, the ring is not on the same finger..WTF!!!!!

  12. briantheman890 permalink
    December 4, 2008 3:41 pm

    this man is a fuckin retard

  13. December 4, 2008 4:27 pm

    What the hell is this guy talking about!!!!! This guy wanted to be a MASON!

  14. Wm Charles Thomas permalink
    December 4, 2008 5:40 pm

    This is a complete waste of time. If you want to look for masonary look within your self dont lean to conspericy hype. symbolism exsisted before words. masonary is a system of a collecton of symbolism from different time periods gathered to exspress a philosophy. but masonary isnt the only place where these symbols exsist. masonary does not own these symbols they use them.

  15. ben stacking permalink
    December 4, 2008 5:41 pm

    this guy is speaking the absolute truth and blacks are just to blind to see.its hard for negros to phhathom that there is something going on in the world that is bigger then there little block .the world is full of sheep and they follow who ever leads them.and our world is being led by the entertainment industry straight to hell.thays why rappers can tell you how to dress how to act and how to live your life.and you will follow them faithfully…YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR MIND.WAKE THE FUCK UP AND LOOK AT WHATS GOING ON.IT MAKES TO MUCH SENSE TO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BROKEN THE CHAINS OF MRNTAL ENSLAVEMENT

  16. BxBuddah permalink
    December 4, 2008 6:26 pm

    I hope people are not actually gonna believe this…
    I’ve been paying attention to many conspiracy theories but this is going WAY too far.

  17. Quest permalink
    December 4, 2008 6:37 pm

    Dont sleep on this info. its hard 2 believe, but Nas talks about Mason-ry on his new Untitled album. If u aint notice a change in main stream music, then sumtin is wrong w/ u. if u dont believe this go to you tube and research ur self. or even better. go to a library and research Masons. this is not new. its been around since the 60s. message.

  18. December 4, 2008 10:46 pm

    you clowns are full of shit…i know you gotta be black..cuz only dumb niggaz deny the truth when it is before their faces..jay z already told you in LUCIFER he was a MASON..”if you feel it in my heart that i long for revenge..blame it on the SUN OF THE MORNING..thanx again….REVENGE…nekam..masonic codeword..revenge against GOD and those who serve HIM..learn and read ..yes your heros serve the DEVIL..and aint trying to hide it..KANYE HAD ON A BAPHOMET T SHIRT..BAPHOMET is the MASONIC GOD..aka LUCIFER..SATAN..and stands for HOMOSEXUALITY and rebellion against GOD…but the resurrection..when you see your heroes burning..than youll know why..theyre decievers…dont u know THUG..MEANS DECEIVER..or DEVIL..a indian word…boy niggaz are dumb

    • FeelingSorryForYou permalink
      March 10, 2010 3:41 pm

      You are truly igorant.

      • Jazzy J permalink
        May 4, 2010 3:30 pm

        what does stating your point of view have to do with being a nigga motha fucker…you are a real piece of crap…people like you fear black people that why you percecute us… the guilty are afraid… you hate us coz you’re scared of us motherfucker….

  19. Me Me permalink
    December 5, 2008 12:19 am

    Yall niggas is dumb if you dont at least look into this.

    • lovly2008 permalink
      August 26, 2009 9:41 pm

      Yes I do think this should be looked into which is why Im here. I heard it on the radio today. Somebody in the know said “look it up, the hip hop secret society.”

  20. kadz permalink
    December 5, 2008 2:09 am

    so what…everybody has an agenda just worry about your own don’t mind others when they clearly don’t mind you
    @ judah u write like a dumb nigga, spell properly dumbass

  21. December 5, 2008 2:17 am


  22. December 5, 2008 3:07 am

    Man are you serious? I enjoy discussing conspiracies just as much as anyone but this is way the fuck out in left field somewhere. Man, this guy really needs to devote the energy he spent trying to analyze this on something else.

  23. Its_BX_NYC_187 permalink
    December 5, 2008 5:49 am

    That’s Some Real Shit To Think About. Go To YouTube And Watch “The Arrivals”. That’s One Of The Realest Things You Will Ever Watch In Your Life. They Talk About This Too. They Didn’t Mention Kanye But They Definitely Mentioned Jay-Z, Modana, Rihana, Britany Spears And Christina Agulera. If Your In To Things Like This Then You Should Have A Open Mind To ALL Possibilities Before You Just Debunk Shit. Your Still Asleep If Your Thinking Like That. Read Behold A Pale Horse. It Was Written In1989 And Evrything He Wrote In That Book That The Government Was Planning Are Happening Now Exactly The Way He Said It Was Going To Happen. And All You Frauds Saying Your Masons, Your Clowns. First Off If You Were A Real Mason You Wont Be On A Hip Hop Site Blurting That Just To Get A Point Across. And Any One Who Know About Real Masons Know That Their Are Levels In Masonry. Their Is Low Level Masons, High Level Masons, Then The Elite. Witch You Fools Will Never Get To See If You Really Were Masons. You A Stupid Mother Fucker. “I’m A 32nd Degree Mason”… LoL… You A 32nd Degree Fraud.. It’s “Jinn” Like You That Try To Keep People Stupid And Stuck In Time With Closed Minds…

  24. December 5, 2008 5:54 am

    I don’t understand why this is bad. Or are they saying it’s bad? It is VERY important to pay attention, I agree with that. So was 2pac a freemason?

  25. himhimself permalink
    December 5, 2008 5:58 am

    diddy, jay-z, kanye, nas and many more of these rappers are masons, if you dont believe just do your research, they arent trying to hide it at all. think what you will about this video, but if you dont do any research for yourself, your scared of the truth. youtube or google skull and bones or the bohemian grove and itll give you a lil info on what freemasonry consists of. most masons dont even know what theyve gotten themselves into, they join masonic lodges in attempts to improve their life, job, income, etc. if you have the time to checkout this website, you have time to do some research, DONT BE SCARED OF THE TRUTH

  26. Look deeper permalink
    December 5, 2008 6:00 am

    One day the truth shall be known. I won’t dismiss this info, nor will I say he is 100% correct. Of course those who are Masons and those that are not properly informed will automatically discredit this. Everyone has a right to his or her own opinion. All I’ll say is look beneath the surface. Throughout time there has always been those that wen against the grain and were deemed crazy, wicked, or just stupid. It’s always a considerable amount of time later that the public found that these people knew what they were talking about. That’s why my 2nd sentence is important. What you see in front of you everyday is not all there is to it.

  27. December 5, 2008 6:05 am

    Wow Illseed, I did not even know this existed,

    I chose to call into a show and make a few points a month ago and it gets brought to my attention today via the site that this video was made. The title of the video was picked by the maker not me. The things I spoke of in the show are not things which can be clearly seen or understood without an understanding of history, intentions of those who are put in place to influence “culture” and help to form the thoughts and opinions of the masses. I am not, or will I ever sit and debate truth, especially on a blog, however regardless of ones opinion about what I spoke about… those who see, see; those who do not, do not. This was not about Masonry… it was about how certain items are pushed through cultural expressions NOT birthed in the cultures that they are being pushed into. There are plans to “perfect” humankind through technology and the blending of humans and machines… creating a form of cyborg. This information is publicly available to those who want to see it. And there is no such thing as coincidence when dealing with the fact that the very “idea” of this is being pushed through certain channels and medium since as early as the 1930s that I can recall.

    As far as masonry and fraternal orders…I spoke about points in an agenda by powers that be, masonry was mentioned because throughout history members of various rites and orders have been called upon to help carry out and bring into being these agendas. An agenda is much different from those to carry it out. Bush saying he wanted to liberate Iraq is much different from the soldier who went there thinking he was a liberator. Such are those who help carry out agendas. I even stated that many people and artist influenced by these things do not even know what they are doing, some actually do and others are forced against their Will.

    There are many levels of information awareness and the ones WHO MAKE IT A POINT TO OBSERVE and understand the world instead of becoming just a member of a society which will keep their perceptions and reality limited to what they get from that group WILL NOT BE easily led in the directions chosen by that group.

    Personally I do not belong to any society or fraternal order, I observe and study as much as possible. Read and communicate with those who are a part for info, maintain my own ideas, sentience and individuality, and as a result I can stand back and do my best to be aware of what is really going on to the best of my knowledge. At least being aware prepares the mind to question everything. Follow nothing and maintain your own personal integrity so you are not led around by the nose. I did not expect that phone call to hit you tube, but now that it is there I hope those who are not aware will become more aware and lead your life and make choices based on that awareness.

    Pick up some old books written by guys who were a part of the Culture Creation field and learn how they thought, what mattered to them and why. Understand that everything down to how your pants fit is a science. Music is a science (study Plato), Religion is a science (Look at the works of Agustus Strong), Nutrition is a science, the Media most people are accustomed to watching and reading is treated as a science…as a matter of fact just about everything that affects us in society (Study the works of Bertrand Russell and Aldous Huxley). There is nothing better and more powerful than learning and seeing things for yourself…not depending on the word of anyone else.

    Always value your sentience, awareness, freedom and power of choice, as well as individuality. Power and what we know as power within this crazy, unjust, unfair, fraternal world of ours does not share that power without conditions…PERIOD. If anyone is under the impression that people in power would share power with any man who is not groomed to be:

    1. Predictable
    2. Easy to Influence
    3. Controllable
    4. Willing to follow orders
    5. Easy to Eliminate

    Think again. Power always comes with such conditions…at least the power most people are seeking to have in this life we live. The same power that people literally worship, the power many take oaths to try and attain, the power that most lose their integrity to have. Been there and done that my friends. For those in the CRAFT, I understand you, more than you can imagine, I hope you understand yourselves and the fullness of what you are a part of. Look at all things from all angles, sides, viewpoints and perspectives… and to be frank … you do not have to be a Mason or a part of any Society or Fraternal Order to do that.


    • November 21, 2009 6:32 pm

      I’m in the masonry and from what I’ve read you don’t understand the freemasonry. You can only understand if you are a member of the masonic order. To be one, ask one… anything else is simply SPECULATION. Becoming a member of any organization requires a knowledge of self. Without that attribute, you become a ZEALOT…religious, political, conspiracy, LOANER or INDIVIDUAL zealot. It’s not smart to RUN or show negativity towards something out of a fear of BELONGING. Focus more on the personal weakness…the fear.

  28. rpm1122 permalink
    December 5, 2008 8:41 am

    First of all, he talks a great deal about transhumanism, which is a very real program, headed up by the likes of Ray Kurzweil, creator of The Kurzweil synth. The process is called, “singularity” or “convergence.” It’s quite real actually. Check out Beyonce’s new character, “Sasha Fierce” and her robot glove.

    The whole Beyonce thing is quite disturbing actually and the Sasha Fierce persona is the arrival of her alter. An alter is programmed to respond to post-hypnotic triggers and do whatever is asked of them.

    It feels like she has been undergoing some form of programming.

    Whether of not you believe the cat on the video, it cannot be denied that a particular strain of hip hop has been prdominantly promoted over the past 14 years, and it has very little to do with raising ones consciousness and awareness. From Panacea to Blackalicious, conscious rhymes have been shunted for a broader, more commercial and ultimately empty product, which is devoid of anything but the cult of the self, which hip hop mutated into with the help of the media and the industry.

    I actually did a similar post myself and used Robert Johnson as the historical model for Jay Z.


  29. rpm1122 permalink
    December 5, 2008 8:43 am

    First of all, he talks a great deal about transhumanism, which is a very real program, headed up by the likes of Ray Kurzweil, creator of The Kurzweil synth. The process is called, “singularity” or “convergence.” It’s quite real actually. Check out Beyonce’s new character, “Sasha Fierce” and her robot glove.

    The whole Beyonce thing is quite disturbing actually and the Sasha Fierce persona is the arrival of her alter. An alter is programmed to respond to post-hypnotic triggers and do whatever is asked of them.

    It feels like she has been undergoing some form of programming.

    Whether of not you believe the cat on the video, it cannot be denied that a particular strain of hip hop has been prdominantly promoted over the past 14 years, and it has very little to do with raising ones consciousness and awareness. From Panacea to Blackalicious, conscious rhymes have been shunted for a broader, more commercial and ultimately empty product, which is devoid of anything but the cult of the self, which hip hop mutated into with the help of the media and the industry.

    I actually did a similar post myself and used Robert Johnson as the historical model for Jay Z.

  30. winston_wolf permalink
    December 5, 2008 8:59 am

    First off whats good Illseed! Its been a minute, but im glad to see your trying to expand the minds of the hip-hop heads because even if all these “conspiracies” are bullshit, it never hurts to expand the mind and open uo to new topics. NOW. Its_BX_NYC_187 , thats REAL shit you just typed dude. Im finishing the book right now and my stomach twisted up when i was reading about FEMA, because the whole book could be a lie but just that part about FEMA makes me believe him comnpletely. It touches on a lot of shit that we can relate and its nearly 10 years old! Like he said dont believe these fakes claimin masonry. Watch for DIS-information like these phonies. I think the real truth is the reign of evils is coming to an end and WE as PEOPLE, NOT SHEEPLE, must unite for GOOD and GIVE CONTROL BACK TO THE PEOPLE. FUCK THE RULING ELITE! THEY WANT US TO HATE EACH OTHER AND CHASE THESE FAKE “DREAMS” SO THEY CAN PUSH THERE AGENDA UNDER OUR NOSES. PLEASE BELIEVE THE MEEK WILL PARRISH AND SO WILL THE EVIL!

  31. sinny sin permalink
    December 5, 2008 9:07 am

    You know I read a lot about conspiracies and even actually acknowledge some of them might be true. While I wont close the possibility about hip hop probably having a hand in masonary I highly doubt rappers such as llil wayne, jim jones, or cassidy have an orginized “agenda” at brain-washing humankind. They can hardly stop beefing and killing each other, what makes you think they have an “ultimate world plan”? Lets be real. britany spears, christina agulera? This is the epitome of reaching. However the mass marketing of drugs, violence, and hate crimes does intrigue me to do point where I can see a connection. I mean for pete’s sake they were making timberland field boots and fitted yankee hats with color’s and symbols from there respective bandana’s (I do think that was more of a money making ploy than a sadistic one. What gang banger would turn down a pair of timbs with their flag on it; that there so proud of?) It was an intresting video. But that’s about it. I do believe free massion’s have a plan for a NWO. But that’s for another time.

    pCe !!

  32. Enlightened One permalink
    December 5, 2008 9:26 am

    i HIGHLY doubt 32nd degree masons are on illseeds blog, lol… even if u were a 32nd degree mason, u would know who Albert Pike is, and he clearly stated that only those masons chosen to be shown the truth will kno, the rest are kept in the dark. jay-z said in “d’evils”- “i dont pray to god i pray to gotti” he worships lucifer. do ur own research into the topics, with the power of the internet, the info is out there. but just writin this off as a “conspiracy theory” only make u a fool…

  33. Fox permalink
    December 5, 2008 10:10 am

    Do I believe in conspiracies? Yes. Do I believe in the Illuminati? Yes. Do I believe the Masons, as well as the Vatican, as well as the Royal Family are deeply seeded in the Illuminati? Yes. But Jay Z and Kanye???? I don’t know but honestly its not THAT far fetched. My thing is this though. You got the Vatican, the Royal Family, the Masons, the U.S. Government, the Federal Reserve Bank (who is not part of the USA), and now the Music Industry all conspiring against the world for their own agenda which is One World Government. Then you got conspiracy theorist and niggas on the web sites talking about how dumb the world is for letting this happen, but when you look at the powers that’s doing this what can One or more people do to combat it? NOTHING!!! You can have all the knowledge in the world from fake Bible stories to Queen Elizabeth, to Bush and Bin Ladens but what good does it do? Niggas ain’t gone do shit about it, neither is the white people who peep game. Not that we don’t want to but we don’t know what to do, how, or when to do it. Keep your knowledge to better yourself and your family’s and stop cloggin the net with this bullshit until someone comes with a solution.

  34. December 5, 2008 12:09 pm

    You people are crazy & full of shit, Masons are not up to anything bad or cynical or satanic, if they wre dont you think they woulda accomplished it when being a mason actually meant something. Im a mason in a mainstream lodge & im also from the hood, one silly asshole said why would a mason be on a hiphop site well cuz im 27 yrs old & grew up listening to real hip hop like BIG wutang black moon and them, I know someone is gonna say your a low level mason so you dont know well i may only be a royal arch mason but my great grandfather was grandmaster of a whole country, you dont get any higher than that

  35. tuxwinkler permalink
    December 5, 2008 1:01 pm

    Oh please, what a load of rubbish! I can tell you this is just acting to get you all talking about them to keep them popular!

    BTW Argos sells a ring very similar to a mason’s ring!

    This sort of thing really makes me laugh! Perhaps you should go to a lodge meeting on an open day and see the people there,make up your own mind if he is the type to fit in there?

  36. December 5, 2008 1:27 pm

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  37. December 5, 2008 1:27 pm

    i ment who this sorry

  38. HEY!!!! permalink
    December 5, 2008 3:35 pm


    What does it matter?

    Are they going to take us over, are they going to make us feel like we have to eat bugs while they eat the cupcakes, are they trying to take our money, or will we all become slaves? Why Why Why does it matter you dumbfucks.

    “oh man masons are everywhere we better watchout or they may make us eat our own children!” What do they want when they put images in rap videos?

    Did I get my point across… Let me reiterate…

    If they show these symbols in society then what do they want? Are they just saying “Hey, Jay Z is one of us, you can too.” I don’t get it.

    • big bruce permalink
      September 1, 2010 4:50 am

      Rappers are governed by the lables, who are mostly ran by jewish men and women. To say that Masons are taking over hip hop is absurd. Maybe some of you should take the time, and actually pay attention to what the Masons do in the community. You may be suprised.

  39. December 5, 2008 4:34 pm






  40. December 5, 2008 5:48 pm

    you just have to understand that many masons/rappers are not the puppetmasters but the puppets used to carry out the plans. Easy for example had no idea that his music was being promoted to have a negative impact on black culture. Dre on the other hand is a culture creator and his music has been the soundtrack to many fd up situations.

    truth is people can be used without being aware of it.

  41. December 5, 2008 5:48 pm


    I do stand corrected on the quote from Jaz Z when he said in the song the word “enlightened” instead of “Illuminated” as here is a copy of the actual words:

    I’m C.e.o. And Yeah Going God
    I’m So Indebted, I Should Have Been Deaded
    Sellin Blow In The Park, This I Know In My Heart
    Now I’m So Enlightened I Might Glow In The Dark

    Now with that being said, when referring to the essence of the content both words carry the same meaning in esoteric circles. Hence grammatically I made a mistake but in terms of the point I was trying to make that still stands.

    All the best

    CulCre (The guy speaking in this clip)

  42. rpm1122 permalink
    December 5, 2008 5:48 pm

    Are they going to take over and make us eat bugs? Now that might be the most insightful question I have seen lately. No, but I’m sure they would be more than happy to feed you GMO grains and veggies that can mutate your DNA.

    Monsanto has come up with a genome that can actually sterilize particular segments of society, by locating specific DNA markers in the system. So, for instance, if you happened to carry a predodominant strain of a specific race and ingest said GMO, you could actually stop bearing or seeding children.

    The ultimate goal is depopulation.

    The massive amounts of workers that were bred and fed on mostly cheap food and fuels to drive the massive profits of the upper .5% are no longer needed. They fulfilled their roles by helping the elites pillage and plunder the planet for gain–ultinately their own.

    The message that Jay and Diddy deliver helps keep people in a trance and worshipping at the altar of the self.

    I have little doubt that Jay is at the very least familiar with The Masons or the illuminists, both of which are Luciferian based ideologies.

    Ask yourself the question, does his music inspire and awaken or does it numb and dumb down?

    Kanye? I used to hold great promise for the young man, but he seems truly lost now, and so hyped on himself that he’s become totally irrelevant for me.

  43. December 5, 2008 6:40 pm

    All I can say is go find Jay-Z’s American Gangster album and listen to a track called Ignorant Shit. This video is exactly what Jay-Z is talkin about. Why Alan Watt choose to speculate without having an ounce of truth from the mouths of the men he mentioned in this video is beyond me. Thats just like saying the Earth is flat…only to later find out that its round. Theres always a higher truth that will eliminate all speculation and heresay….search for it! If you dont find it right off, keep ur mouth shut until you do!

    Its Only Entertainment!!!! LOL…

  44. knowledge permalink
    December 6, 2008 12:57 am

    I see its a bunch of dumb smart niggas on here posting…Got a Black President ,now we gotta find something else to argue about,the shit isnt me…one thing about rappers they are just Entertainers on their taxes… so until i hear Jay himself say it, then o well,conspiracy wtf…ever wonderd If you are a conspiracy….good debate illseed Obama 08

  45. Twinzo permalink
    December 6, 2008 5:14 am

    “Its Only Entertainment!!!! “…….how long will people keep sayin this ignorant ass statement. I ain’t dissin, but damn open your eyes. Music is one of the most effecient ways to subconciously plant thoughts in your brain. I used to be the biggest jigga fan…but this nigga is almsot 40 sumthin still talkin dope, money, cars etc. and still hasn’t spit anything to uplift the poeple…and people say he’s the greatest, but his lyrical content is the same as lil waynes….killa nigga, get money, blah blah…Kanye used to be ill, but now look at him usin the voice box( which goes wit waht they was sayin about robots). my point is….you think it’s just entertainment, because that is how they want you to percieve it. it’s like slippin medicine in a cupcake…you still eatin both even if you never se the medicine

  46. Bro. Kurt permalink
    December 8, 2008 4:12 pm

    This is pure bullshit!!! As a Proud 32 degree Prince Hall Mason This makes us look bad because for those that don’t know anything about Masonry, seeing this crap is just adding fuel to a fake fire that’s doesn’t exist in the first place!!

  47. a master mason permalink
    December 10, 2008 3:43 pm

    Again, its laughable.

    Luciferian ideologies? Masonry has been around far longer than any Luciferian doctrine. Do you even know where the “name” Lucifer comes from or whom “he” was before it was translated from Hebrew to Latin?

    Baphomet? Again, do you know where this symbol came from? It certainly is not masonic.

    The people saying that low level masons are just puppets and dont know anything and its the elite running the show. Please explain to me how YOU know this but it has somehow escaped me or the other few million masons in the US alone? Maybe you can tell me how us puppets are carrying out the agenda of the elite? Those elite must have been very proud of us carrying out their Thanksgiving agenda, when the puppets in my district DONATED over 100 turkeys and hams to needy families.

    Grow up and stop spewing ignorant rhetoric that you heard or read from some unreliable or biased source. Truth be told, you cowans and eavesdroppers would LOVE to be a mason.

    To quote a mason that was answering challenges about masonry, “I find it supremely ignorant for someone that isnt a mason to tell me they know more about masonry than I do”.

  48. mason killa permalink
    December 11, 2008 4:12 pm

    fuck masons.jay z, oprah, tom cruise, george clooney etc etc can eat a dick. bunch of sellouts.masonsy is for atheists. God is the almighty.not no piece of shit pyramid with an eye on top.ill buss in that e-y-e.

    yo yo never will it stop
    handguns with double digit shots
    i move work on other niggas blocks
    leave out the club with anutha niggas watch
    stomp a mason to death and let other niggas WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!

  49. mason the pistons courtside announcer ? permalink
    December 11, 2008 7:58 pm

    not saying i buy into this video, but found it strange that these supposed masons are on here bashing it.

    why a bunch of mason’s on illseed’s page? that big of hip hop fans? also search other comment boards on blogs that involve free masonry and conspiracies like this. their presence is evident.

  50. rpm1122 permalink
    December 12, 2008 4:51 pm

    Master Mason-

    Your order extends back into Atlantis, where masons (ma-son-son of mater or son of the material) perfected the great work of erecting the temples, the first pyramids, as stargates. They worshipped Lucifer, a creator god from Orion, who brought technology to Atlantis. Later, the same masons fled Atlantis for Egypt, where their temple building continued. One of the dieties that they held in high regard in Egypt was “Ma aat” the feminine principal which kept the logos in order. All pyramids, including The Great Pyramid are set at an angle towards Orion’s rise in the sky on the winter solstice.

    Freemasonry is an Atlantean based religion which was the fraternity and belief system of choice of the founding fathers, who set out to build the new Atlantis in The US.

    It was infiltrated by Adam Weishaupt in the 1700’s and elementst of The Kaballah were added, as well as more of a sediitious element through the lilluminatti.

    Weishaupt actually had a lot in common with Saul Alinsky, who by the way dedicated “Rules For Radicals” to Lucifer.

    I actually think there is a lot to learn from Freemasonry regarding the roots of our cosmology.

    The age of secrets is coming to an end. The book of life will be open to all as it was intended–not just the select and iniitiated few.

  51. December 13, 2008 4:55 pm

    “Trip on this!” If a nigga aint never lived the same life and evolved from that low that some of us have been in, then why is it that this nigga can come off the head about some triangles and squares.. NIGGA GO GET A BEER AND CALL IT A DAY…

    My dude, people may be followers because of natural instinct when it comes to leadership and trust, but why is it not possible to just BE ALIVE.. I truthfully think that everything is bullshit.. When it comes to believing somebody, do you even consider where your information is actually coming from.

    I am Chunkie Soup and I hate HUMANS!!!! (LMAO)

    !~ Chunks ~!

  52. the truth permalink
    December 15, 2008 7:07 am

    lulz, everything and everyone is part of a conspiracy. when is a triangle just a triangle? i had a morning movement this morning, i’m sure some of y’all can connect it to some obscure ritual that ties it to a secret society that some how connects to the illuminati, horus, rosicrucians and lucifer, lol.

    any story that involves robots as something other than a glorified toaster is a masonic story? every use of autotune? do y’all believe david ickes belief that the illuminati a really lizard people (and in the case of jay-z lizard camel people)? how about ol’ dr. york’s shamballa?

    funny how y’all are willing to believe just about anything as far as conspiracies, masons, illuminati but unwilling to believe that at least some of the speculation is just pure bullshit. but this was good for a laugh.

    by the way, there are some real and accurate books on masonry that exposes some shit (such as the william morgan murder, the yahbulon shit, promotions for masonic members only in gov’t, public and private biz, etc) without needing to attach them to every single event real or imagined. this shite does more harmthan good to those that believe in conspiracies, something like a cointelpro, but i digress, to each his/her own.

  53. December 15, 2008 12:53 pm

    I might head to South America too. America’s horrendous grammar is shameful. I definitely do not want to be a “Mason,” if in fact the self proclaimed “Masons,” on this forum are indeed so. Please teach your children to be better than you. Learn proper punctuation.

  54. Ali Mir permalink
    January 6, 2009 10:25 am

    Great Video. Hip Hop has defnitley been Hijacked by the freemasons. Not Just Hip Hop but Music Itself.

    From the leading figures its very Simple

    From all women, We have Madonna, following The Kabalah, (She has stayed number 1 in the Music Industry because she is a clear member of the free masons)

    Im happy Sean penn beat this bitch up. If i ever see madonna in Birmingham ,Uk im gonna break that dirty gap between her teeth, fuckin bitch!

    Moving on…

    From all the Men, we have Jay Z as a leading freemason in the music Industry.

    Do you know why 2pac was maybe died because he was trying to show the truth, killumanti, meaning kill-illumanti. He kept saying but us people were too busy listening to how do you want it and Hit em up. Where stupid, where blind.

    We think our Prime miinster Gordon brown, or you think Obama are today heroes, think again you idiots, your just another sheep in todays society, you nod your heads to anythin you see,listen or whats fed into your TV. Wake up motherfuckers, The time is now to stand up and Belive in GOD,

    Quoted fro Ali, Man gets and forgets, God gives and Forgives

  55. Ali Mir permalink
    January 6, 2009 10:33 am




    • November 21, 2009 6:08 pm

      Give an ignorant nigga Koran and he is dangerous. The worst part is, you’re the false prophet and don’t know it.

  56. killuminati permalink
    August 28, 2009 3:47 am

    to the princehall mason their not saying all masons but the 33rd degree masons whos next step is metting satan.

  57. kevin permalink
    September 21, 2009 10:39 pm

    first off id like to put to bed some of the so called masonic links to jay z

    1. jay named it rocafella as a play on JD Rockafeller the oil tycoon who was crazy rich the nickname roc which plays of rocks slang for diamonds in the hip hop world so thats why u throw ur diamonds up. the diamond is also a dynasty sign from the greek alphabet as used in greek fraternities and sororities

    2. he looks through it with one eye because on money there is an all seing eye which represents the growth of the nation er-go the growth of rocafella records.

    3. the skull and bones is just a reflection from rockstar fashion and heavy metal no masonic link their either

    4. all the buzz around the supposed song with the murda murda jesus was nothing more than cleverly placed sound bytes from lucifer off the black album and if u read the lyrics with some sense you’ll see it says And if you feel in my heart that i long for revenge
    Please blame it on the son of the morning
    Thanks Again
    he’s saying that if he has revenge in his heart for what they did to his friend bob then you can blame that feeling (because he doesnt normally feel that way) on the son of the morning ( lucifer =the light bearer=the son of the morning) because Lucifer makes u feel like u gotta do bad to that same person back to justify what the devil caused in the first place.

    5. the term Jay-hovah is a play on jehovah or another name for God in other words he’s saying he is the god of hip hop that he’s the best.

    now squash the masonic shyt and hunt down manson and string him up

  58. Bob C permalink
    September 27, 2009 3:46 pm

    Dear Kevin, if this is your response after your ‘intensive research’, you’re not right in the head. You have no idea what the ROCKEFELLER family stands for and what they’ve accomplished behind closed doors. You have no clue what the symbol on the dollar bill stands for and are furthermore ignorant to the occult origins of the skull and bones. Read a book you boob!

    • November 21, 2009 6:01 pm

      Ignorance is definetly bliss, as represented by most of the statements on this page…or most of you are just plain dumb asses! As a Mason, it would be great that Jay-Z joined. Must of you idiots have family members, clergymen, teachers, etc that are Mason but you are to young and dumb to realize. Have ever seen the guys wearing the Fez, like Shriners hospitals. Guess what?…they’re Masons. You have to be a Mason to be a Shriner. In most cases, FEAR breeds IGNORANCE. Throw in youth, stupidity, class, jealousy, broke assness and in some cases, MEL GIBSON “Conspiracy Theory” craziness…you get the comments we see on this post. Masonry is a service fraternity you DUMB MFs. Go to your nearest Lodge and get an application and find out for yourself. The reqs are you have to BELIEVE in GOD, be 18yrs, and not be a FELON. DOes that sound like the reqs of Devil worships, gangsta boo, headbanging group. If you want that type of thing, join the KKK or Black Panther Party.

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  61. devil's advocate permalink
    May 14, 2010 10:10 pm

    yall motherfuckerz need to grow up…non of ya’ll got facts as far as i’m concerned…nobody knows shit about ’em freemasons except freemasons themselves…if you say jay is one of them,you are probably part of it too…get off jay’s back & let him live his life…to all ya’ll fuckin’ Christians judgin’ this man,i believe u are siinnig to because only the HOLY TRINITY has the right to judge a man…that ain’t your role to play…who knows,some of ya’ll fuck niggaz do things that are worse than what u claim jay & his fellow rappers are doing…we are all sinners u dumb assholes…remember when u are pointing your little finger at a nigga,three fingers are pointing back at you…ya’ll need get off these people’s backs,u don’t them,& they don’t know u…everybody is gon face judgement one day,leave this shit to GOD…don’t b judging people u don’t even knoe…ya’ll need to get a life…

  62. killuminati permalink
    May 29, 2010 8:28 pm

    I took time to read each post. i did my own research through my own beliefs n this is what i truly believe. the bible tells us to beware of the entertainer. but what do we do? we mimic them. dress like em talk like even take time to throw up a pyramid n scream out the roc. explain to me track number 6 off the dynasty record. he evn mentions a secret society. how can u have a secret society with no secret. u need to open your eyes and notice that theres a war goin on. didnt u go to church with your mom. did u ever the lyrics to those gospel rituals “im a soilder in the army of the lord”. i kno wat i saw i kno wat i seen. unplugg urselfs from the systems before its to late. i dont kno about yall but im training for war menatlly and physically. revolution is evolution.

  63. Prince permalink
    June 25, 2011 11:49 am

    U masons think that the devil is God but the real God is in heaven u fools if u don’t repent u will perish in hell as ur early people. The devil can give u all u want on earth but ask urselves after earth where would u be in heaven enjoying wid the true God or in hell (lake of fire) perishing. Open ur eyes masons and repent for ur sins to be forgiven and to be accepted by the true GOD.


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